#050 – Oil And Gas Inspection Drones with Cyberhawk's Chris Fleming

welcome to the 50th episode of commercial drones fm excuse this longer than usual intro but we are at 50 episodes that's halfway to 100 insane first of all a mega shout-out goes to the individuals who support the show on patreon I honestly I probably I don't know I probably wouldn't be still be doing this if it weren't for you to be honest I mean thank you so much for all the support and I just wanted to share a few quick stats on how far we've come on the show so far so the 50th episode actually coincides almost perfectly with the one year old birthday of the podcast so I launched this podcast on July 4th officially July 4th 2016 so the podcast turned one on July 4th 2017 happy birthday to the show we have reached over two hundred and ten thousand downloads of the podcasts since then which averages out to around five hundred and seventy every single day which blows my mind and another thing of note is that we've launched the first ebook which is a companion piece to the drone industry review quarterly podcast series so this series dishes out the most important news from the commercial drone industry from the past quarter the preceding quarter and it gives it to you in under 20 minutes so that's a special series for the podcast that I started recently and for q2 I released the first ebook on that so for subsequent quarters I'll be you know releasing ebooks as well for those quarters so the e-book I put out was for the q2 drone industry review and you can get that ebook at commercial drones fm and just click a book under the new extras menu in the top of the website there you can also listen to those episodes the drone industry review podcast episodes the q1 2017 review episode was number 42 and the Q to 2017 episode was number 49 that was the previous episode since this is lucky number 50 so let's go ahead and kick this off to the show I don't want to take too long for anyone that is new joining us a little bit about this episode to preface this it's an interview with the cyber Hawk CEO and co-founder Chris Fleming I met up with Chris at the exponential conference just a few months ago in Texas and after a couple drinks we decided that we needed to document our conversation and Chris was actually I hope he's out of the wheelchair by now it's been a few months but you'll hear that little story in the very beginning and the audio just a quick note is it might sound a little bit off because we were using one of my more portable recording setups that I take with me when I'm whenever I'm traveling so without further ado here is episode 50 of commercial drones fm welcome to commercial drones dot FM the podcast that explores the commercial drone industry the people who power it and the concepts that drive it I'm your host Ian Smith hey everybody Ian here with commercial drones fm and I'm in Dallas I was standing in the drone Starr's lobby at the aloft hotel dren stars is put on by Lucas van Ostrom and the Delft aerial robotics group out of the Netherlands in in in Holland and I was looking around for my schedule of guests which was someone from a robotics and they actually didn't wind up showing up and so I look and lo and behold I find Chris Fleming the CEO of cyber Hawk standing at the bar right next to me and I decided to go ahead and track him down to see if he'd be a guest tonight on the show so with that said Chris who's sitting right across from me as we sip on some drinks welcome to commercial drones fm Thank You Ian and I'm only here for the free bit that doesn't continue I'm out of it you probably won't get very far before I track you down oh my audience – no no no happened to your leg so you're a little so you can't see me right now but I have a cast from my foot up to my knee because two weekends ago I was up a tree in the garden cutting some branches off and sitting on a branch that wasn't able to support my weight and I fell 20 foot oh so I broke all the bones in my foot and being a person that used to work professionally at height it's a little bit embarrassing but it's merely in convening at the moment because I've got my scooter so I can get around there you go so it's it's not too bad yeah it's not too bad so it's a nice scooter first question though why didn't she use a drone to cut down that tree line well there are trains with chain saws on them and many people who sent me the links to those already on Facebook but I thought I was a safer option doing it myself rather than using the drone in this case in the future you know we live and we learn yeah so okay your background you mentioned used to climb up tall things so well first to reiterate CEO co-founder of cyber Hawk which is awesome company that will tell my story of knowing the company about a little bit later but what's your background what is this what are these tall things you used to climb up so myself and the other founders came from an oil and gas industrial inspection background so we used rope access techniques abseiling essentially or rappelling as you'd say here in the US and we would scale drilling Derrick's offshore rigs or we would abseil underneath platforms and we would carry out inspections of places that were difficult to reach hmm so we use this work positioning system to get to places and then carry out an inspection and then you know at great risk to ourselves we would do that type of work in order to write an inspection report on something and now what we're doing is we've seen the opportunity here and we're using an art technique to gather that data and do the inspection faster safer and more accurately and that's the reason for starting cycle so when did you start cyber Hawk what year was it so cyber Hawk was started by my dear friend and co founder Malcolm Connelly in 2008 and another friend Douglas Walker and they came to me they said they're starting this company and it's a drone company and they told me that what they wanted to do and they asked me if I was interested in being involved and initially I said no well I listened and I said I smile and I said you know under my breath that sounds like a crazy idea what you know what can grow drones achieve and what can they inspect they made me an offer I couldn't understand so that the typical offer you came something I was bored in my job I've done you know I'd spent 20-something years working offshore in the oil and gas industry all over the world and was getting paid quite a lot of money for doing very little to be honest and so I decided that I wanted to be involved in something that was new exciting and had potentially changed my industry which is inspection and totally revolutionize it and that's what drones are going to do that's what they are doing so that was in 2000 2008 the company was four thousand eight yes so we were doing this ancient yeah in terms of the parson to other providers we were doing this in fact we were almost too early because when we started using and we tried a number of platform manufacturers and I won't name them we had issues where we would apply the their kit and it would end up side down in a field mmm um you know work for 10 minutes then it wouldn't work and then it worked two flights and it would crash and then we would send it back to the manufacturer and say it's you know it's not the job and you know we had some moments in the back of our van where we would be you know trying to carry out inspection somewhere the equivalent work wasn't reliable enough and we kind of really questioned whether we were doing the right thing and whether you know the technology was going to meet our expectations that's really cool so 2008 so that's not a recent trend company by any means you guys have been around quite some time into my personal story with cyber Hawk it's that in 2013 to that lady 12 2013 I was interested in starting my own drone service company in Houston focused on the big energy industry energy capital of the world wanted to go offshore you know past helicopter experience use drones to do things that helicopters and humans have to do and so I started doing a bunch of research and I found you guys and I was just blown away because I didn't realize at that time in 2013 that there were these companies that were super professional focusing on oil rig inspection from what it was what it seemed like you know inspecting oil rigs flare stack flare tip inspections with drones and then that's how I found out about extending technologies the German UAV manufacturer and the list goes on from there and I just remember just idolizing you guys as a company like damn this is like a drone service company that's like really serious and so from that point on I was just like you know really fascinated with you guys so yeah if you mentioned Malcolm Connelly one of the other co-founders whom I met in London back when I worked at Dallaire tech and then now seeing you at the bar and the bright yellow cyber Hawk shirt sealed the deal here and it was good I'm glad the aerobatics didn't show up for the meeting now but so tell us a little bit then so what a cyber Hawk can do I mean what do you guys do exactly like what's your kind of mission statement if you had to tell someone you know in a couple minutes like what's the deal here so we ran a set inspection company so we focus on inspecting things and I guess we use that we use a drone for that purpose but for us the what we're delivering is an inspection report and that's I think why a lot of a lot of companies who start in this industry fail because they don't understand what you need to deliver to your client to meet their expectations so all you know what cyber hook does is is replace I mean I used to do rope access inspection important so I would write a compelling report based upon my experience of climbing around something inspecting it and then giving my opinion on the condition of an asset we're doing exactly the same thing but we're just using a different device to capture the data and what I say about data capture is that if you historically when we did inspection if you were to change the environment in which the person worked if you made it colder if you made it hotter if you made it more uncomfortable for the person then you would get the deviation in those results you'll get inferior quality because person that was capturing the data didn't like what they were doing when they got hungry so at anytime that you can do the data capture remotely and we capture our data in a matter of minutes or hours versus hours or days in which we you see before and then you can analyze that data somewhere else then you'll likely get better results so historically when you did rope a rope access inspection you might not find anything wrong because you might be terrified of the environment you're working in you might be hungry oh it's all good yeah that's it we should be backup invariably what happens hmm so if you can if you can capture that data remotely and analyze it somewhere else you find more things wrong and we never go on a job where we don't find defects anomalies so we write inspection reports we deliver those to the client either electronically or we have a hawk which is our software platform for delivering results for transmission towers and utility towers wind turbines the utility tower story for those markets but for our oil and gas customers we write detailed inspection reports which you couldn't write unless you'd worked in that industry for a number of years yourself because yeah it just wouldn't wouldn't meet muster so what like what I've seen actually is you know I did another podcast recently and actually I'm seeing a trend really and it's people that worked in an industry or knew really a lot about an industry and then identified the problems in that industry and then created a company to solve them and the company didn't have to be a drone company but given the technology and given the way that drones are so easy and cheap etc to operate it just made sense total sense to be a drone company as in they didn't start out to create a drone company to do anything it was like let's solve a problem we know there is oh here's this piece of technology drones that kind of let us accomplish that so whenever you were initially approached for cyber Hawk were you like kind of skeptical of drones or what was your Mo's you're all like there was a little apprehension maybe there was because the technology was so new and so unreliable and we had a huge issue with reliability of equipment in the early days and you know one of the phrases that I used to use for our pilots was that if you're not if your hands aren't shaking you're not flying for cyber walk because generally every job we went on we were terrified because if we you know they were well first we've done 25 well firsts with the UAV where some of those were over these are the first wind turbine inspection with a drone within the first oil rig inspection the first underground inspection the first transmission tower inspection first cooling tower first internal chimney inspection internal chimney inspection so we've done intelligent what is this like you fly drone in the chimney of a plantar's yeah so one of our suppliers is fly ability who manufacture the elyos shadow drone if you're familiar with that other okay it's it's a device which can is collision tolerant so you can bounce it off things so you can put it in them environments where it's actually not possible to put a person so we've done Jimmy inspections where they haven't been able to shut down the flue so you have nasty materials going through a chimney so you couldn't send a person we're not talking just to be clear we're not talking like a residential chimney we're talking a chili about a commercial chimney on a an aluminum refinery okay so this is a toy like hundred twenty five meters okay yeah sort of four hundred feet high and they're flying in there looking for cracks and the only other method of doing that beforehand was to put somebody inside that in a basket on the crane and because this chimney in particular that I'm talking about had had bricks fall off you don't wanna put people in that environment if they're wearing a hard hat and whatever so maybe your mother might also breathe in some really talks yeah well you couldn't you have to shut it down okay that so we were able to keep believin still I would just imagine there would be some type of like fumes or residual I'm not going in there yeah you wouldn't want it so yeah most of the places we work you know it's it's it's industrial we don't work in we're not doing no real estate you're not Santa Claus coming down the chimney no we're doing the dirty jobs that the drawings were a perfect two to be deployed into to gather data so so you went down the chimney with this drone and then what did you guys find cracks and like is there a light on the drone I mean he tell us a little bit of more about the operation itself and what the outcome was and we've never had anyone talk about this on the show before so I'm fascinated so what we do is we fly the the outside of the chimney first and we create a 3d model of that using photogrammetry and we shoot points off the chimney to make the dimensional model more accurate and then we get a 3d model of that and then we're able to pinpoint each and every defect on the outside of that chimney and measure it accurately to within millimeters so then tell the owner of the chimney okay you have 127 defects on your chimney this is the size of them and this is the location so if they choose to carry out repairs when they go to their subcontractors they can say it's a hundred and twenty 70 defects and these are where they are this is what you need to fix them so that Fiat the upside palaver the internal we fly inside and we're looking for four major gross defects and we'll fly top to bottom and we'll try and do it in a in a planned methodical way so you fly certain heights and elevations and then around diameter of this chimney what are we talking here because think about something so tiny that it's just bouncing off the wall no no we're talking about something that's about maybe eight meters in violence okay so there's quite a bit of room in there to turn around and kind of pivot and not just be bouncing off yeah but there there is a you get a lot of debris in there you get a lot of dust and then when you bounce off the the surface of the the chimney you get debris things falling off which creates a more difficult environment for the fly in and there can't be GPS signal inside this is just totally manual that's when your hands are really shaking yeah yeah that's pretty scary what happens if the drone falls down does it just go in some weird combustion area where they're just all right well we just got to turn this sucker back on and just bring that drone up and well there are I mean not in that case because it was a where it fell you can you could reach it and hook it out and that's how he put the footage put the device in and out with a hook through a man way oh so you didn't go in through the top no it doesn't seem practical now that I think about it but that's how I imagined it was just like this is what I'm doing up on bottom if we can okay yeah but we do other compliance based inspections of coker units on refineries where you're flying in much more compliant areas where you have you know toku unit can be maybe you know four meters diameter lots of things sticking up to get caught on you've got drawings of that um that unit so you kind of imagine that we're sitting in a big space in here but imagine you haven't been in here but you're building up a picture in your head of what that looks like a flight first-person view and you go in there and then you have to try and remember where you're flying in order to get back out so those are some of the more challenging inspections that we do take a video game those ones up a bit learn more like a video game so you need to become you need to watch your battery levels you need to make sure that you have you know exactly how to get out of that environment quickly so they don't get caught inside but if you do leave it in there the old company will say guess what we're showing the door and we're turning the unit back on and you can say goodbye to that client that's how it arose or drugs or so they're disposable relatively disposer bleep riced yeah so you have them that discussion beforehand about if if it's a particularly complex job then we'll say to the oil company right there's a high high chance we want we might not get this out so are you prepared to share the risk with us on this project are these chimneys the same as like flare stack flare tip inspections that I've been so kind of you know when I found out about you guys I was just obsessed with the fact that oh my god this is perfect and that was like the first use case that I say like in the best really nice case so that's the most is the same or is this a little bit of other different talking about so it is a flare tip inspection and why is that important so a flare on a on a gas plant or an oil platform its primary purpose is a safety device so if something goes wrong on that facility if it's if you have a vessel which is about to blow up or you have valves that you can't close one thing you can do to get rid of this massive inventory of gas which could cause an explosion is to get it up the flare as fast as possible and burn it and therefore you're reducing the risk of having an explosion on the facility so its primary purpose is as a safety device so it's a critical piece of infrastructure and that's the same on an offshore oil rig as it is on a plant and some facilities are offshore you only have one flare some facilities on shore they'll have more than one flare so they can alternate between whichever one they want to use but a lot of plants only have one so it's a single point of failure for a for a gas plant or an oil week so you can't inspect a flare tip historically you couldn't inspect one unless you climbed up that so you have to shut down guys like me within climb up suppose we used to do yeah you got a cop digital camera a notebook and pencil you climb all over it you then write down as many things as you can about the condition of it and then you go back down and then you speak to the manufacturer of that equipment and say these are the things that I found wrong you know what do we need to do in order to remain maintain it or do we need to replace it commercial drones FM is supported by Devron UAS Denver on UAS is building a standardized drone network for farmers all across North America offering on-demand near real-time field level data when you want to learn more about how you can achieve scalable data collection and agriculture visit devran UAS comm that's devran UAS comm genius New York is the world's largest Business Accelerator competition for unmanned systems in addition to three million dollars in start-up funding the program offers company stipends housing resources programming and networking opportunities genius New York is currently accepting early-stage technology companies who are focused on hardware software and data analytics related to unmanned systems applications are open until October 1st so go apply now at genius NY comm that's genius NY comm I remember hearing about it could cost millions of dollars or something per day or a million bucks a day if a company had to shut down a flare stack for a person to climb up the side of it and inspect now with the drone well first a is that figure somewhat correct and how much money could that cost the company to shut down a flare second be with a drone you don't have to shut down the fire stuff we do it live so we have a team right now in Africa that's been there a month and they're inspecting a flare and the reason they are inspecting that flare is because there's a problem with it and they're gonna have to replace the flare tip they know that but we're providing them with daily a daily condition report of that flare oh they're throwing up a drone every every day we're doing it every time we're doing a daily inspection of the flare tip and we're finding things that are going wrong bolts that are coming off the flanges on a daily basis so the number of bolts that are holding on a flare tip and we find that bolts loosening on a daily basis and so we're giving confidence to the operator but it's still it's still safe to operate based upon the condition and it's worth it that that's where I'm getting so yeah it's worth it to have a crew there every day to do that rather than shutting it down because the production rights of that it's an FPSO are 1.5 million dollars a day okay FPSO hold on floating fraction average offloading vessels so it looks like a tanker so it's flat it's a boat it's a ship it looks like everybody been talking on if it's English it's at sea yeah so this is another thing that I wanted to ask you and thank you for reminding me well hold on a second how much money though does that cost to shut that thing down well the shutdown is that it's the old companies talk about loss of production yeah if you're talking it's a million and a half dollars a day so they've already so in this particular case we there's a helicopter coming from Norway that's move making its way through Europe and Africa it's a particular type of helicopter that can do a flare to have changed out in a day so it'll lift up the old flare tip take it off lift up the new flare tip and put it on and then guys will climb up and up with that on and a shift they'll switch over so they only have to be shut down for one day to do that so in the lead-up to that process we inspect it every day if it looks like it's going to be a catastrophic failure and the thing is going to be a missile then they all shut down because they don't want to obviously harm the people that are on board so if we provide them with as much information as they need then the engineers that are making that assessment with some degree of confidence can say ok we know we've got a problem but we're monitoring it and we have a solution if you don't have the knowledge you can't make an engineering decision and you have to shut down that's how it operates in the oil and gas industry so how many people work at cyber Hawk like what can you paint me the picture of like what's like the operational kind of landscape like it sounds like you guys have operations all around the world yeah we have we operate from our main office in the UK but we have satellite offices everywhere about operational teams usually the boy from the UK and they will be working in places like you know as far as Apple New Guinea or Australia or Ghana Nigeria and Norway just about everywhere you can think of in our company there's about 50 people and we have full-time pilots who only fly we have inspection engineers who are focused on oil and gas inspection we have inspection engineers who are focused on utilities which is transmission towers and we have inspection engineers were focused on wind termites hmm then we have a software division that devises software solutions for those for those verticals we have sales team I think that's kind of that's good so how does it work then just you know thinking so do these does it matter if the person let me rephrase this I think you guys are being hired far and wide you're traveling halfway across the world in some cases from your HQ to go do these jobs for these companies and because you guys are pros you guys know what you're doing you have been there you've done that you've been on the side yourself you've seen it with your own two eyes you've touched it with your hands so the people that are flying the drones and then preparing their reports to most of these people have backgrounds in this as well I can imagine sometimes like the operators of the drones maybe the pilots maybe don't have that much experience okay they don't so what we've done is we've taken a variety of people from various backgrounds to try and work out what the best skillset is for a pilot and initially we we we trained remote control helicopter enthusiasts and we work with guys who was either sponsored or had their own businesses who are very good at flying 3d helicopters Wow so because this was like really high-stakes stuff yeah we're not talking like a little photogrammetry metric mapping mission we're talking about we're talk about complex flying where you terrified that things are gonna go wrong and you have you know a BMW 3-series that's where we tell you I imagine you have a BMW 3-series up there doing the inspection you don't want to lose that that's the value that's the value of the tool but reputationally if we have something go wrong it's much larger than that so it's really important that we work safely and we work effectively so we tried guys to a remote control hobbyists and we trained them up and we found that they weren't they were very highly skilled pilots but they had no experience working in industrial environment so they weren't used to being on other wigs or refineries fly to the you know X Y Z widget you know if someone's so when this is happening is someone kind of talking in their ear like this is what we need to see this maybe someone from the clients experts it's kind of like to look at or you have this all planned now yes so we know how to inspect the various assets and we'll have we have it we work with two main teams so we have a pilot who's there solely to capture the data and keep it safe and we want his eyes when we're driving we don't want looking anywhere else and then right beside him or you know matter of meters away we have a payload operator and his controller camera and they're communicating constantly he'll be capturing the images or caption that the videos where the case may be but he'll be the part of the inspection engineer he's only really interested in capturing the data to write a compelling inspection report the pilot is there to make sure that it's done safely effectively and then we get the thing back in a box and back to the office very focused so the roles are clearly defined and we do have a little bit of overlap where we've had right now we have one of our inspection engineers who's been with us five years and he's saying actually I would like to get trained as a pilot so we cross training him as a pilot and we have one of our inspectors one of our pilots who has an engineering background and he wants to get cross trained there's an inspection engineer but for right now we actually have them quite separate in their roles nice so one of my last questions is hardware what kind of hardware you guys are using so when I found out about you guys back in 2013 it seemed like you're using almost exclusively ascending technologies Falcon 8 so those are those eight rotor multi-rotor or multi rotor systems made by the german company sending technologies who has now been acquired by Intel and Intel has them what kind of hardware are you guys using for these types of missions today and is it still the same type of platform so we we started working with ascending technologies in 2009 which is quite a long time ago now and when we first went to as deck as we call them and we explained what we wanted to do with drones they said to us you're doing everything with a drone you shouldn't do that's not what it's designed for it's designed for aerial photography you want to fly close to flares you want to fly underneath oil rigs this is not what it's designed for you know you can have issues with magnetic interference all sorts of things we didn't know this at the time they told us afterwards that they had a kind of a you know a decision to make do we want to work with cyber all these sort of lunatics who want to push the technical capabilities the platform or not and they thought that it would would help their business if they work with us because we've really pushed the technology and what it was capable of achieving and that ultimately would benefit their other customers who were doing aerial photography those other customers now no longer exist because they've migrated to cheaper things like you know DJI phantom so we in the early days we would get people contacting us and say I've come across your website and we want to buy the cyber Hawk and we would say we actually don't manufacture the cyber Hawk those people might have been me to be like who is this I remember trying to track down who makes this drone and I was probably typing in Google like who makes the cyber Hawk drone and somehow I came across it I'm not surprised at all because you guys you set the standard like I mentioned before like for me I was like this is how you do a professional these these people are way ahead of the curve they're outside of America where there was not even at the time a 333 exemption process to do commercial operations and you guys were out there using these drones and I'm just like it looked like and now I'm so happy to hear that you're still using this pot yeah and to hear this story and that it just must have been it hasn't changed it seems like from the outside but it was just the perfect they inadvertently designed the perfect one of the at best inspection multi-rotor platforms I mean to be honest we you know when we were pushing the technology early days it had limitations but they they came out with a triple redundant autopilot system called Trinity the upgrade of the motors and we were flying much more college it like what do we need a triple triple autopilot system I'm wondering like I was thinking like come on like okay you're marketing it's not that good let's be honest you know totally frank like did you guys have instances where the auto pilot actually like failed yeah we did yeah we had issues where I mean when you think of it it's a computer that's what it is right it's a flying computer and if you have something wrong with your computer you turn it off and turn on again that tends to fix it that's no different to a drive so maybe you guys with your feedback then in these super high-stakes situations your hands are shaking you flying a BMW 3-series above this super valuable asset from this very important client then maybe that was the inspiration to do the Trinity then I'm sure you guys have a really close we have a relationship over these many years DJI it doesn't have you know they're the most obviously the most popular drone manufacturer in the world right now but they probably don't have relationships with customers like you and now Intel ascending technologies or whatever have had working working drums like working with drones doing business with them that long that's true I think we've got something like 18,000 flights now with a falcon 8 and so and it's all been in industrial environments not you know hobby horsing around in a field it's been in it's doing technical flying and for me I'm delighted that sending technologies has become part of the Intel family because of that is a company which can truly revolutionize the capability of that machine that's a great affair so we have a really exciting map with Intel and I don't know if you caught the keynote I did it was very impressive so for someone that didn't see it Intel's Brian Rose NH I think and I am yeah so BK was up on stage doing an keynote at a VA sized exponential conference and then he showed off a Intel Falcon a platform with intel realsense flying around a bridge a fake little paper mache bridge which was almost life-size that they brought to the conference and flew around it autonomously so that's really interesting just you guys will have less shaky hands when the drones flying autonomously I guess I would you know what we've seen in this this sort of you know in the use of this technologies we haven't seen what they call the hockey stick in terms of of growth we just haven't seen that yet and the reason we haven't seen that is despite what the manufacturers will tell you if you want to do you know a complex inspection job at the start you need to be pretty skilled so you need to be good at your client and at the other end at the moment we still have a difficult problem to solve with the data processing you know we have men sitting in computers for days writing reports so until you figure out those two conundrums and either end of the data flow we're not going to see the exponential growth but I'm pretty sure that Intel laughs yeah I think they do so Wow so Chris I could sit here talking to you for quite a few hours about this there's so many topics I still want to cover but we gotta cut it off now unfortunately but Chris Fleming CEO of cyber ah thank you so much for for joining us on commercial drones FM if you guys want listeners you can go ahead and fall out cyber hawk on Twitter at V cyber hawk and check out the website which is what inspired me years ago which is the cyber Hawk comm WWE Cybercom and while you're at it you can go ahead and follow the podcast on twitter at drones podcast on facebook as well and then if you want you can also subscribe and support the podcast with a buck a month is the starting kind of support threshold and then with that dollar a month it gets you access to our private Facebook group where you can join other like-minded commercial drone professionals to talk about some cool stuff behind closed doors and and just get in on that community and you can do that and learn more at patreon.com slash drones podcast patr e o n comm slash drones podcast Chris thank you so much for joining us any last parting thoughts before we go ahead and cut off the bikes well that's another drag Cheers yeah here's to a great conference and an emerging technology which is going to revolutionize asset inspection forever I love it I think that's great so with that we'll go ahead and we'll check out everybody thank you so much for listening we'll catch you on the next episode of commercial drones FM Cheers

Cyberhawk, a Scotland-based drone inspection company, has logged over 18,000 flights and accomplished 25 world firsts with drones since their founding in 2008. The nine-year-old company has done the first drone oil rig inspection, wind turbine inspection, transmission tower inspection, and even the first internal chimney inspection. Cyberhawk CEO, Chris Fleming, joins Ian for an uncut interview where the two dive deep into how Cyberhawk accomplishes industrial drone inspections for massive, global companies.

Chris explains how using drones for flare stack inspections can save oil and gas companies $1.5 million per day in recovered production costs, showcasing how much is really at stake when providing services to their multi-billion dollar clients. This is just one of the reasons that helps understand why, “if your hands aren’t shaking, you aren’t flying for Cyberhawk.”

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